Elite rowers are some of the most fit people on the planet cardiovascular wise. [–]username_00001 6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (0 children), I second that about hunching. Can I just use a rowing machine to workout? Three to five rowing workouts per week can be enough to help you build a slimmer body. Rowing is a full body exercise, is low impact and can dramatically increase your endurance. The difference in terminology may be … (Android, iOS) - can be cast to a big screen or used on a tablet or smartphone. See the ESO post for more. "I can't get enough," she says. The lever on the side of the fan of a Concept2 rower changes how much air is allowed in/out of the fan assembly and affects how quickly it slows. Because rowing is … (Android, iOS) - I've cast this to a big screen, KREW (Android) - guided workouts, auto-programs the PM5, free, subscription service adds audio feedback and a few other features, Regatta (iOS) - subscription service that seems like an alternative to closed ecosystems like Peloton or iFit, ErgZone (Android) - I'm less familiar with this one but people in the sub speak highly of it and it syncs with the C2 logbook, Not quite yet but soon: Zwift. My question is, will just using the rowing machine (30mins and ~6500m as of now) be enough of a workout to keep me in shape or will I need to add some other stuff? Putting a phone in a cradle on top of the PM5 is the cheapest way to add some interactivity. This can do the same for you competitive racers and athletes out there. A study in Medicine & Science in Sports & Exercise found that one 23-minute HIIT workout a week for one month can lower body fat and boost aerobic capacity. I tend to do around 40k per week, usually doing 10k pieces a few times per week. (and that could take months). An untrained person might experience some hypertrophy but the gains would end quickly and the muscle distribution would be extremely unbalanced due to some muscle groups being worked very little or not at all, which is another reason rowing teams lift. I don't know how you row but ass pain like that shouldn't be happening. [–]bballdeoRowing (Competitive) 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children). Nope then again been looking for only about 2 weeks. Click Here for a one-stop shop of our most important resources. Credit to RowPerfect UK for their comprehensive article on drag factor (which you should read), we're cribbing some recommendations: Year 7 – below 100 to 100 (girls & boys) (use the speed strap to go below 100), Female heavyweight (over 61.5 kg) – 120-130, Female lightweight (under 61.5 kg) – 115-125, There is specific advice for Masters Rowers C2 Drag Factors. Read this: The Damper and Drag of Olympians. And I am definitely going to work on posture. To make them the Best Years Yet. TL;DR: Concept2 is the gold standard and despite supply chain issues with the pandemic, you can get one in under a week if you put in some effort, as discussed here. (the Row Australia videos linked above are good guides), The Concept2 workout of the day is a good start, as is the Pete Plan for Beginners. Whilst these water rowing machines are not the cheapest on the market, they perform extremely well, are quiet, easy to store and beautiful to look at. Kinomap - actual video footage of rows. First, a few resources so they don't get buried: This or a variant of it is the THE most common, repeated topic of this sub-Reddit. My question is, will just using the rowing machine (30mins and ~6500m as of now) be enough of a workout to keep me in shape or will I need to add some other How do? I've been rowing three times a week for two months and have only made it up to 4000m before my ass hurts so much that I need to stop. "With each stroke, pretty much every part of … I like to save it til the end of a workout to completely burn myself out and it never fails, [–]mxmxmxmxCalisthenics 27 points28 points29 points 7 years ago (7 children). Make sure your form is good and you don't hunch or your lower back pain will come back with a vengeance. A 45+ male lightweight rower told me he rows with a drag of 115-120. It's relatively easy to build up your endurance, which also helps in building up your pace too. "You do not rise to the level of your goals. When I … It's even better if there's a mirror by the machine. This beginner-friendly rowing workout from Anna Cummins, a master rowing instructor for Concept 2, a top manufacturer of rowing exercise machines, will take you from rookie to pro in minutes. [–]yledude 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children). Sure thing. By Laurel Leich t There's nothing as frustrating … Rowing isn't weight lifting, it's cardio. 3: Change clothing. (skip the optional workouts in square brackets) You'll eventually be thinking things are too easy - then you can add intensity, duration, or volume. This a very standard rowing workout, designed to stretch volume at a steady, attainable pace. This rowing machine has all the things you need for a powerful and smooth total body exercise, whether you have been at it for quite some time at the gym or you simply starting rowing. tangentially, How are you rowing 6500m right off the bat? T This is precisely why I love rowing. TL;DR: Concept2 is the gold standard and despite supply chain issues with the pandemic, you can get one in under a week if you put in some effort. They will be engaged, but their engagement won't be affected by the flywheel resistence. 2: Row slower. For most machines, if they're a Concept2, the optimum is around 4 or 5 out of 10. Well my back has had zero pain the two days I've used the rowing machine, so whatever the problem is when I run its not aggravated there. If you're truly working at full capacity, each of those will absolutely wreck you. Technically, have a look at the drag factor for each machine, but as a rule of thumb level 5 will be fine. Do a 20 minute row one day, 8-10x500m intervals another day, have a 2K day, etc. [–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children). I'm trying to improve my erg times. thats the plan, just wanted to check and make sure it was worth giving a shot, [–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children). To give masters specific rowers parameters for setting the drag factor, I asked various masters and coaches to share their experiences. Why do people say rowers provide a total body workout? [–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (2 children). The single most commonly posted question/discussion: I'm thinking of buying an indoor rowing machine. Daily Simple Questions Thread - December 20, 2020, Daily Simple Questions Thread - December 19, 2020, Daily Simple Questions Thread - December 18, 2020. Rowing is one of the best full-body workouts because it is one of the only exercises you can do that trains different muscles and joints without straining them, meaning that rowing is a great option for people who suffer with arthritis People who are into rowing a boat for exercise are not thinking about grunting it out while sharing space working … When you drive it's legs, hinge at hip, arms in so in your upper body you lower back, upper back, shoulders, triceps and chest & bi's slightly on the recovery. Here's why: Rowing just might be the most efficient exercise ever. I'd rather be lean than muscular. For most adults, exercising between 30 and 45 minutes a day is enough to gain the benefits of exercise. Of course, it will never be as good as it would be with a little variety, but it looks like you aren't necessarily interested in min/maxing. This is one of the leading causes of the 160 million obese or overweight individuals in the country. See here for more info on damper setting. We are not rich enough to buy a car. use the following search parameters to narrow your results: General Posting Guidelines (click for more info): and join one of thousands of communities. If you have a bit more money to invest a TV or even a thrift store LCD monitor with an AppleTV on the back attached via some kind of mounting arm or a separate stand would give you a bigger screen experience for the apps above. While maybe not a thorough hamstring workout, a deep catch will usually engage the hams too, as far as I can tell. You will find the seat pretty comfortable due to the extra padding. Rowing is an excellent form of exercise, not only because it is good for your health, but also because it can be done solo or as a team to build teamwork. Rowing machines don't offer enough resistance for strength training; instead, they're an excellent tool for building cardiovascular fitness. Exercise is an important part of staying healthy. ErgData is the most basic (freebie from C2) where the others offer built in guided workouts and premium subscription options. Use an app that syncs to the Concept2 online logbook so you can track progress. They already know that rowing is good exercise, but what they want to know is what kind of rowboat is the best for getting that exercise and why. Erging is great for physical fitness and it's low-impact once you determine optimal drag factor and get your form right. Unlike cycling, however, your hands aren't free to poke at things like tablets, phones, newspapers so using connected apps helps pass time and make it more engaging. That paragraph was an edit since people seem to think otherwise. Get an ad-free experience with special benefits, and directly support Reddit. Rowers call them ergs. The erging motion is pretty much like rapid super high rep deadlifting. TL;DR: start with the damper at 2-3 for steady-state rowing unless you know exactly why you want it higher than that. Of all the cardio machines gaining attention lately, the rowing machine sits atop of the list. Do those things hit the chest or the triceps? Practice for a while with lower resistance and get your form and rhythm down or you will definitely hurt your lower back. It's entirely possible but the workouts need a high level of technique to not injure your back and are pretty advanced for someone without coaching. Putting a phone in a cradle on top of the performance monitor is the cheapest way to add some interactivity. Float - iOS and Android, detailed stroke analysis. Here’s what I learned. [–]mgonnerm[S] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (4 children). You must use your abdominal muscles, back, arms, chest, legs and the buttocks while on the rowing machine. OP said nothing about aiming for muscle hypertrophy, which is a very specific training goal. 5. [–]mgonnerm[S] 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (2 children). But if you feel good while erging by all means keep doing it! 1: Check your form. Depends on your workout, and you can't exclusively row, but it's a great supplement for a weight lifting routine. That’s where the Hydrow Rower comes in. Luckily I found a rowing machine in the weight room where I live. For reference, I put about 50k on my concept2 this week with no pain. It is quite common for fitness newcomers to fall prey to overtraining – a condition in which your body at best hits a plateau and at worst enters a full-blown catabolic state. [–]so-cal_kid 38 points39 points40 points 7 years ago (1 child). [–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (2 children), [–]mgonnerm[S] 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (1 child), I don't understand why that would be such an unpopular opinion, [–]Squishumz 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago* (4 children). [–]rowing12 47 points48 points49 points 7 years ago (0 children). His behavior was too impudent for me to tolerate. You are correct but how is this relevant? Maybe the exercise is strengthening the back and the surrounding muscles? [–]username_00001 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children), I injured my foot a couple months back and my doctor recommended it as a way to do cardio, and now I'm in love. [–]Squishumz 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children). [–]mgonnerm[S] 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (1 child). Row Australia has GREAT videos on technique and setup: Well... it's great for physical fitness and low-impact once you get your form down and set your drag factor appropriately. [–]Darien128 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (7 children). Rowing Machine Workouts The Fat Burner “Make sure that you’ve warmed up and then go flat out for 30 seconds followed by a 30 second rest period,” says Zachariah. Doing this exercise should be much harder on your legs than on your That is because they work the back. For example, my butt goes numb fast if I wear running shorts with a liner while rowing, the seam cuts off circulation. A common mistake is setting drag too high. Concept2 sells a plastic phone cradle that fits the PM3, PM4 and PM5. Answers 1. High damper resistance would have very little affect besides making every stroke significantly harder on the lower back and anybody with a bad back should be careful about rowing with a high drag factor. It really is a full body workout, when I row furring fall season I'm typically in the best shape possible. [–]IdlertwoPowerlifting -2 points-1 points0 points 7 years ago (0 children). syncs with Concept2 online logbook, as well as Strava. [–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 7 years ago (0 children), [–]Toastkingftw 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children). I guess it's a psychological thing, [–]goldfather8 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children). - James Clear. However, using the machine incorrectly is a common issue so be sure to put some time into getting it perfect or otherwise your lower back will cry. In the study, 56 … [–]CANOODLING_SOCIOPATH 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child). been looking for the cheapest way to get one, [–]bballdeoRowing (Competitive) 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child). If cardio primarily is what you are after, the rowing machine is a great choice. Any idea on how to prevent that. The rowing machine is an incredible cardio workout - I swear by it when I can't run. I find I work out more effectively when its a continuous activity over a long period of time. It depends a lot on how you row and how much muscle you have to start with. Most common beginner mistake: setting the damper too high. Regatta (iOS) - subscription service that seems like an alternative to closed ecosystems like Peloton or iFit, syncs with Concept2 online logbook. [–]A_Meat_Popsicle 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children). Maybe two sets of these. Swimming, elliptical, biking There are a tonne of tools to make it suck less such as apps that gamify it. Use of this site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy. (links below), Dark Horse Rowing's YouTube channel is great (as others mentioned) and /u/gardnertravis has a channel that offers GREAT explanations of the why and what you want to do. [–]sharpma 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (2 children). Rowing machine exercise, similar to the sport, involves both the upper and lower body. A rowing machine is not the best for your back, the rowing motion uses a lot of the lower back and core muscles to keep you balanced. So let’s exercise, stay active and enjoy Healthy Living After 60. You will find the seat pretty comfortable due to the extra padding. Looks like you're using new Reddit on an old browser. With a stroke of luck we've rounded up, just for you, the 15 benefits of the rowing machines and why you should reintroduce this cardio kit into your exercise … Ex rower here, yep. You aren't going to build muscle on an erg. My Achilles' tendon has been hurting a little bit afterwards. It's a lot easier if you're in a rowing-concentrated city like Philly, Boston, SanFran, etc. can be a perfectly fine replacement for running in your cardio training as long as you keep up a similar intensity over a similar period of time to what you would do for running. There are 3D printed options, and Vapor Fitness makes a reinforced silicone cradle in several colours that fits the PM5. (though you can hack it to work with bicycling in Zwift). Rowing is a great cardio exercise and you can definitely replace treadmill with rowing if your lower body joints bother you. I'm thinking of doing a full 42k marathon before the end of the year, and did a 25k piece last week. More details here. Rowing is a cardiovascular exercise, not weightlifting. Olympic gold medal rower Eric Murray doing a 1000m sprint for funzies, with a DF of 130. (This model is our favorite.) Damper level on 10, 10 x 1' on 30 seconds off, stroke rate 16. [–]mgonnerm[S] 8 points9 points10 points 7 years ago (3 children). If it’s pain, though, you might be jerking your back. Syncs with Concept2 online logbook. Get your heels down at the catch. (strong fitness background, doing short interval workouts involving bursts of power). A rowing workout roughly comprises 60% legs, 20% core, and 10% arms and shoulders — So a rowing machine is a good option to I know that rowing machines provide a really good total body workout but I am also worried about getting a good cardio workout. KREW (Android) - guided workouts, auto-programs the PM5, free, subscription service adds audio feedback and a few other features, syncs with Concept2 online logbook. Any aerobic exercises where you elevates your heart rate is great cardio option. Tips on Using the Rowing Machine It's fine if you have a little bit of soreness in your lower back. I just was told about 30 minutes is a good workout and thats how long I row and it usually ends up reading around 6500m when I'm done. You might be getting tired too quickly or simply going so hard that you aren't staying on the seat properly. The biceps are obvious. Sure, it's still a cardio exercise, but you'll build a hell of a lot more overall muscle than with running. [–]snowmans 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children), [–]gibonez 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children). A subreddit for all rowing related news, erging advice and fitness discussion related to the sport. Even if I try I always end up competing with that split time display and end up destroyed, [–]mgonnerm[S] 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (2 children), [–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children). The focus should be on maintaining a solid 500-meter … Rowing is one of the best cardio workouts you can do. Your back should not bend much. [–]snowmans 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (3 children), [–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (1 child). The lever on the side of the fan of a Concept2 rower changes how much air is allowed in/out of the fan assembly and affects how quickly it slows. [–]AllLiftGeneral Fitness 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago* (0 children). Why don't you try it for a while and see what happens? The rowing machine gives back only what you put in, so if the workout seems easy, you're not working hard enough yet. Before you post, read this: Erg Shaped Objects (ESOs). 2. One helpful point to remember … It allows you to control the movement and pace, and is a great exercise to turn to for active recovery. Or you might be coming too far forward on the slide and need to shorten your stroke a bit. Whatever you decide to do it sounds like you need to work on posture/mobility or you're going to continue to have back pain and maybe make it worse. You rotate your hips not your shoulders, this may be why you don't feel anything in your back. A 35+ lightweight male told me he likes to row with low resistance of 100 because it feels more like being on the water and is easier on his back. No Threads That Are Answered by the Wiki, Searching Threads, or Google, Posts Must Be Specific to Physical Fitness and Promote Useful Discussion, Progress Posts Must Be Detailed and Useful, No Questions Related to Injury, Pain, or Any Medical Topic. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. But just in case you were wondering, a good workout to build muscle would look something like this. Rowing is one of the best full-body workouts that a person can do, and indoor rowing is just as effective. Use tools to help track progress automatically. The abs are definitely engaged, and longer strokes are nearly a complete situp. Idk what you are wearing, but the style of shorts can even make a big difference. HIIT on an erg with ~1:30 splits will definitely build muscle. It’s little wonder, then, that so many people are turning to indoor rowing machines for their dose of daily exercise at home. REDDIT and the ALIEN Logo are registered trademarks of reddit inc. π Rendered by PID 5103 on r2-app-0f8729a63827b850a at 2020-12-20 22:37:48.516617+00:00 running 406fa40 country code: GB. A good friend also made the observation that I appeared and was much taller after a very good race. Of course, this is all personal. Andy cardio am endurance becomes crazy good. They get new stock every week. Graphics have been upgraded, it features structured workouts, challenges, and seems poised to become "Zwift for rowers.". Other machines of value: legit WaterRower brand rowers, RowPerfect RP3, Oartec DX and Slider models, older Concept2 Model C, possibly Model B. It isn't as efficient for building muscle as weight lifting, but you can definitely build muscle on a rowing machine (I have). The boy was clever enough to solve the problem. 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